Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Who is Karen?

Act 4:12  Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.  (Note:  This is not an endorsement of Acts.)

Yesterday morning I became involved in a conversation with a woman named Carol.  I probably could not retell the story better than it actually happened, so I will just repost it as it occurred.

Carol’s original post was the little saying in the orange box: 


Me
Here is where the name "Tuesday" comes from. It means "Tīw's Day", the day of Tiw or Týr, the god of single combat, victory and heroic glory in Norse mythology.

What do the Scriptures say? Exo 23:13 “And in all that I have said to you take heed. And make no mention of the name of other mighty ones, let it not be heard from your mouth."

I think it would a good thing to avoid using these pagan weekday names and instead maybe call them "Day 1", "Day 2," etc. Hard to do in this pagan society, but I sure wouldn't go out of my way to use pagan names in light of the instruction in Exo 23.

Carol
I do not lift up the day but THE GOD OF THE LIGHT.. I trust HIm and know that I am under His shadow and in HIS arms by HIS saving grace. He is my Daily bread and all suffiecient GOD as I yield to HIM today.. thank you
Me
It just seems odd to associate our AWESOME Creator with the name of a pagan god. Were you aware of where the name came from?

Carol
The days and times are to keep things in line concerning our time here on earth. We are all in need of boundaries and the LORD has allowed days, months and years to be part of what is temporal for now.

Yesterday was MONDAY and today is TUESDAY and tomorrow is WEDNESDAY. We are all a part of this and will be until HE COME
Me
In the grand scheme of things, the pagan names are recent additions. This is the world's way, but we have been told to come out of the world. To me, that means abandoning those pagan customs and traditions that are associated with the goyim (Gentiles/pagans). In the Scriptures, the days were called yom rishon, yom shanee, yom shlishi, yom revi'i, yom chameshi, yom shishi, and shabbat. (i.e., Day 1, or first day, Day 2, etc.) But you didn't answer my question, which was were you aware of the pagan connection? I'm guessing maybe not. Don't feel bad, though. I didn't know it either for a long time.

The real question is, are you one of the goyim or are you one of the yahudim? (That is a rhetorical question you don't have to answer. Just something to think about. Shalom!)

Carol
I may not know it all as to where you are coming from..but coming out of the WORLD is our journey out from and into..Our journey is still proceeding and even though I am in the world , I am not of it.

Do you believe in JESUS as being your only way of entering into the KINGDOM OF GOD !!

Me
Absolutely not. There was never anyone named "Jesus." I do believe that Yah sent His Messiah, however. But I am not a Paulinist (i.e., I do not believe that faith alone saves anyone, nor do I believe in the Jesus of Christianity [or in Christianity at all, for that matter]), who to them was someone who did away with the necessity of observing the Torah, (which is not law, but instructions from my loving Father) regardless of what he said about NOT doing away with it.

But what I believe is beside the point, Carol. I'm just trying to share with you information that you may not have been aware of. I wasn't being critical of you at all. 
:)

Carol
Not a problem.. just answering you as best as I could. I am a true believer in the LORD JESUS CHRIST and am a FOLLOWER of the KING of kings..
Possibly different ground that we have settled upon. Jesus is my ROCK and HE is my HIDING PLACE as the prophet Isaiah prophecied.. YES, HE is my TRUTH..

Me
There never was any man ever called "Jesus" 2000 years ago, so I'm not sure who exactly it is you are referring to.
:(

Carol
My heart goes out to THE ALMIGHTY GOD who is GOD of heaven and earth who came to earth in the FORM of a servant in order to save men from sin and from themselves. HE is our only HOPE and if you and anyone else reject what THE ALMIGHTY has given in THIS MAN.. there is no other help provided. THE LAW will condemn you and tell you the truth..................but it is NOT THE LAW that saves a man. The law CANNOT BLEED for anotther.
May your eyes be opened to HIM; THIS SAME JESUS that you may be saved unto eternal life.

Carol
 Yes , it is a SILENT NIGHT without JESUS.

Me 
You are completely missing the point, Karen. His name was NOT Jesus. How much more plainly can I say it? Why do Christians insist upon calling him by a name that is obviously not his name?

Carol
A Rose is a ROSE no matter what you call it.. IT is still a ROSE.. and the ROSE OF SHARON IS LIVING IN MY HEART AS HIS VERY OWN WITNESS..

Me
Not necessarily, Karen. But I don't want this to turn into a debate, so I will leave off the discussion now. Shalom.

Carol 
WHO is Karen ..

Me
My POINT exactly. 

1 comment:

  1. Maybe I should have ended it with "A Rose is a ROSE no matter what you call it.."

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